Thursday, August 28, 2008

chasing another one home

Wed 8/20

After leaving Betty's place I saw Amy walking Miki and Shammy. Reina had gone to the mainland for a few days.

I ducked behind the stonewall of a driveway until they passed and followed. Kimo followed surprisingly easily and they were walking well together almost like the old days. But then Kimo must have heard something (or realized who he was walking with) and got spooked and went wild. That caused Miki to act up.

Kimo finally calmed down a bit and Miki too. But Amy said too late and headed home. OK another one chased home.

watering Betty's lawn

Sun 8/17

Flo had left a message Saturday asking me if I was interested in watering her lawn until the new tenant came in October.

Being the type to avoid work, I was hesitant but decided it might not be too bad to let the dogs roam and sniff while I watered the lawn. So I took Kimo and Koa to the yard on Sunday morning.

I decided to give Flo a freebie and let the dogs roam while I watered. Koa was friendly to Flo and she petted him. Kimo was too but I was cautioning her about Kimo so she wouldn't be too eager to pet him.

The dogs were OK until Kimo heard some other dogs barking and started barking. Then Koa reacted by howling at Kimo and I had to intervene. Then I left them inside the fence and went to water the front.

They both went to the Makai gate and waited by the gate for me to finish.

Wed 8/20

Since it drizzled on Tuesday, I figured I'd skip a day before venturing to water again. Gerald had dropped off Hershey, so this time I brought Kimo and Hershey to the yard. I saw water drops on the plants, so I knocked on the door and Flo told me that she got Willie to do the watering. Fine with me.

Flo and Kimo seem to be getting along as I saw Flo petting Kimo a bit. I forget though if it was today (8/20) or the previous time (8/17). Or maybe both.

close the gate!

Tue 8/19

After walking and feeding Koa, I took Kimo out for a walk.

I brought Kimo and let him stay in the front since I was going to dig some grass in the front. But later, I saw Pat taking out Keith so I took Kimo to the back and let him in the Ewa gate.

I went back to digging and Pat and Keith walked by on the street. To my surprise (and Pat's horror), Kimo came charging from the back, went right up to them and was barkig and growling. Pat snatched Keith off the ground and I managed to step on his leash and quiet him down eventually.

What happened was I had left the DH gate open when we left for our walk and forgot it was open when I put Kimo back via the Ewa gate. OK, next time try to remember!

figuring Hershey (and Paco)

This happened today (Thu 8/28 and Tue 8/19), so I figure I'll put in the same post.

Hershey always used to want to play, but when I bring him into the back yard, he seems to be wary of Kimo (can't blame him). I fed them some treats, one on each side of me. Kimo kind of pepped up and barked (though today it seemed a little more of a scary growl/bark). That got Hershey goingbrought over Hershey and he got into it and they wound up playing for a while. I think playing is good for Kimo so he can get some energy out by chasing Hershey and also learns to be chased without getting violent when it happens.

Earlier today though, I was walking Hershey and Kimo with Kimo (the man) walking Mochi. Paco (the cat) was trailing Kimo and Mochi then came back to us to greet Kimo. As he drew closer, Hershey barked and Paco ran off. And Kimo started barking at Paco. Well that kind of ruined it because Kimo reacted wildly at Paco when we saw him coming back. I think Paco was kind of spooked at Hershey and Kimo was reacting to Paco being spooked. Hopefully they'll be better the next time when they encounter each other without Hershey around.

Tuesday, August 19, 2008

Hershey shy too

Friday

After dim sum, the gang came over to park before going to racquetball.

Hershey saw them and howled. I brought him over but he continued to howl. But finally subsided when I handed the leash to Cathy.

I took Hershey up to visit Koa and Toni. Big Koa passed by which equaled a bark from Koa.

I talked to Toni. Koa lay down. But Hershey was shy and hung around the boat area.

white wiggly worms

later that day...

I saw Kimo under mom's window. It was like he thought he was stuck and so he just sat there.

I went out and saw some white worms wiggling in his poop. They were maybe a third of an inch long and an eight of an inch wide and were sticking halfway out of his poop and wiggling. Kind of neat and gross at the same time.

I looked it up and it sounded like tape worm.

I emailed Donna and she called the vet. And got a couple of pills for Kimo. I broke the pills in half and put it in his food bowl as he was eating and he ate it. I don't notice the worms anymore so I guess it worked.

Reading the lable on the bottle, the pills are droncit. Seems like a common prescription.

* * *

[10/5/08] Koa has tapeworm too. I called his vet a few days ago, but the receptionist said I would have to bring down a stool sample. Not wanting to go through the trouble, I thought to have Donna get some pills for Koa from her vet. But then Diana told me they have tape worm medicine at the pet shop too. I looked around and there were various ones. The cheapest one I found was safe-guard 4 at Pet Discount Warehouse. I checked at Kalihi Pets yesterday, but they seemed expensive. And the place on Ward didn't have anything today. I was going to wait for Donna, but what the heck, I picked up safe-guard at PDW today. The only problem now is that I see it's only one day's dose of a three-day treatment (whereas the one I gave to Kimo was a one-shot deal). The active ingredient is fenbendazole. Which is also the ingredient in Panacur. Well, we'll see if one dose is enough. (Doesn't look like it.)

I see the droncit is by prescription, but fenbendazole is not.

Looking further I see that Canine Tape Worm Tabs (praziquantel) has the same active ingredient as Droncit and is available without a prescription

[8/24/12] Kimo has tape worm again and I got him the droncit from Dr. Kamiya.  But I notice that it's available w/o prescription from Amazon.  It's called Tape Worm Tabs with the ingredient praziquantel (which is what I see I wrote above) Available from Amazon.

do not attempt these techniques without consulting a professional

Thursday, 8/14

It started out like a normal day. I took out Kimo, then saw Hershey and grabbed him for the walk.

Then I saw Reina coming out with Miki and Shammy. Kimo reacted as I came closer so I ducked into a garage. And she passed. I didn't look.

I went to get Koa but he was back to pulling. But it got a little better as the dogs started to pant

I took Kimo home and Hershey too (fed Hershey and Koa treats).

Try a new strategy walking Koa. Let Koa go loose on leash and then let him get jerked when he reaches the end of the leash. It seemed he was starting to get the idea after a while. Anyway, it was better than him constantly pulling.

I continued on and saw Amy leaving home. Reina had left over. Then I saw Ann coming back w/ Mochi and she took him home.

Lead us not into temptation. I took Koa down the driveway wanting to see how he and Miki would react to each other. But Miki went down around the corner and they were out of sight of each other.

Then Ann and Kimo left. Double-temptation. WTH, you only live once (maybe).

I opened the gate and brought in Koa. I went around the corner. Miki and Shammy were probably happy to see me, but didn't know what to make of Koa. At least they didn't charge him right away.

Shammy came over to sniff. I held Koa and he started to growl.

Miki reacted to the growl. And Koa reacted to Miki. They went at it and I grabbed them both.

Miki calmed down quickly and I took Koa back to the first gate and made him lie down. Shammy still wanted to sniff him and Koa growled uncomfortably. Koa seemed scared and wanted to go home, but Miki & Shammy seemed calm.

I fed Shammy and Miki some treats through the fence and treated Koa too.

I figure that was enough and exited.

Dogs were barking as we left. I think one was Nalu but I'm not sure who the other dog was. I sat Koa until all was quiet.

I took Koa home. He lay down and I noticed a small bite bark on his hind quarters. I guess Miki got him.

I went home to get some bactine and saw Vern out w/ Bobby. Bobby barks (but it sounds like he has his vocal chords cut), and gave him a treat.

Then I went back to administer the bactine.

Gee, I hope nobody is reading this. But, despite the incident, I think this shows that these dogs can get co-exist and wouldn't be constantly trying to kill each other.

It's a chain reaction. Koa get scared and growls in self-defense. Miki takes that as aggression and becomes aggressive. Or maybe she was defending Shammy. I'm 99.9% sure that if the right person (or dog) were in control of both Koa and Miki they could co-exist. I don't believe Koa is aggressive, but defensive. And Miki seems to mostly react to the other dog's reaction.

Friday, August 15, 2008

dog walking banned in Saudi Arabia

Every single man knows: Walking a dog in the park equals sure babe magnet. Saudi Arabia's Islamic religious police, in their zeal to keep the sexes apart, want to make sure the technique doesn't catch on here.

The solution: Ban selling dogs and cats as pets, as well as walking them in public.

Thursday, August 14, 2008

the other way

Wednesday.

I was out with Koa at the beginning of the street. Reina sees me and goes the other way (for the first time in many months - ever since Koa growled at them up the neighbor's driveway). I decided not to pursue them. That was probably a good decision, but then I remembered that I had taken Kimo to the front.

I went to big Koa's place. Koa wasn't too friendly with big Koa, so I made him lie down facing away for big Koa. The tip of Koa's tail was under the gate so big Koa could smell it. What made it more complicated was that big Koa was barking. But I think he wanted a treat so I made him sit and gave him one.

In the meantime, I could hear Keith, Kimo, and Hershey barking/howling. So I could kind of tell where she was on her walk.

I figured I better not stick around when Reina came back, so I went back a little toward the beginning of the street and ducked into a garage or driveway. Reina came back but avoided looking at me (it seemed). So maybe she's still not happy. Barking dogs could do that to you.

* * *

That afternoon, I took out Koa and large Koa was out walking with mom and daughter. Koa barked so I decided not to push it and turned around.

Later I took him to Yokomoto's garage where Mr. Yokomoto seemed to want to pet him. June came out and Koa went over to get petted.

Wednesday, August 13, 2008

chain reaction

Tuesday

I let Kimo sleep in and went to visit Koa. I'm trying to get him in the frame of mind of following me. So I picked up some leaves with him in tow with the leash. After sweeping some in the back too, we went for walking practice. And he was better, not pulling for longer stretches of time. I didn't want to feed him because I think he might be eating too much (can't feel his ribs), so I just played some food fetch with him in the front.

Hershey missed his walk too, but I heard him howling in the afternoon, so I went out to look. He was inside, but Helen saw me and let him out. I took him for a short walk, then decided to bring him in back with Kimo. He's now gunshy of Kimo and stayed mostly by the fence entrance area. Kimo saw him, but stayed mostly in the dirt area where he likes to sleep. OK, never mind. Take Hershey home.

Then it was Kimo's turn to go out. I took him to Koa. Kimo remembers eating Koa's food and went to his dish and it was empty. But then he started drinking his water and kept drinking and drinking. Then he saw the bag of food which had blown from the table to the ground. He started sniffing. Red flag. I blocked him with the broom. He started growling a bit and then backed off. Disaster averted?

Time to walk. Yokomoto and Chung walked by and I tried to follow. But Koa started pulling again, no matter how many times I corrected him (Caesar makes it look easy, but it's not for me). We struggled our way up the street.

After passing a bird above and Keith, we got up the street. But Shirley (the black spaniel) made her way to the balcony and Kimo went wild at her. And Koa went wild at Kimo. I grabbed both leashes and pulled up, mostly worried about not getting bitten by a redirected Kimo. After things calm a bit, I induced Kimo to lie down though he didn't go on his side.

Head back home, but the paperguy comes and I head back. I let Koa go in the Yokomoto driveway to get petted by Sam. But he heads toward the back. Luckily Sam caught the leash with his foot. And got his pet in later. In the meantime, the Cheungs come home. Steve puts away the trash bin and Melinda heads for the door.

Take Kimo home. Take Koa home and feed.

Go home and feed Kimo early cause I'm off to Salt Lake. Kimo eats all his helpings since I'm sitting there watching him eat.

Monday, August 11, 2008

walking Koa

Sunday.

I took out Kimo. Koa was snoozing on his pillow as we passed, but whined as we passed him on the way back.

So I took home Kimo because I didn't think Koa was ready to walk with him. Then went to get Koa. We walked up the street but it wasn't going all that smoothly so I decided to reverse the leash and put it high on his neck. He seemed to walk much better that way. At least it was less of a struggle for me.

Keith still barked when we walked past. So I kept walking back and forth trying to condition him not to bark. Whenever I thought I almost had it, Keith would let out a bark and back I would come. That went on for quite a while. And I guess Pat got fed up and got Keith away from the window. Then we went on our merry way.

Back up the street I saw Reina taking out Miki and Shammy. Challenge. Since Koa seemed to be walking in control, I figured I'd try. But Koa was reacting to Miki so I struggled to get him closer. But then Miki acted up on sight of Koa. Undaunted I caught up with Miki. Reina kind of told me to go ahead but I wanted them to walk together. But the dogs didn't like it and Reina took them home. I told Reina I was sorry and that I wanted to see what they would do. And she said she kind of knew what they would do (that's bad energy to me) and she wanted me to go ahead. I told her I could go ahead but down the driveway she went. She didn't seem too happy.

I guess we're on different wavelengths. I'm trying to get the dogs to walk together. But she wants to avoid conflict. Well, I should force what I want on her. I'm pretty sure they could walk together, but I wouldn't think it would work the way Miki walks in front of her. It probably would work with Wynn holding Miki. And maybe even with Amy.

Keep going. I went back down the road and heard Max barking at us. So (undaunted again) I took Koa to Max's door and let them sniff each other. Diana was in curlers, so she didn't want to take out Max, so I offered to walk Max w/ Koa. I took them down to Kimo and let Max and Kimo sniff each other thru the garage fence. Then I took the dogs home.

So I'd say it was a mixed bag today. Well, live and learn.

Sunday, August 10, 2008

The next day

Friday (Olympic day). I went to retrieve Hershey and brought him to the DH side gate. But he didn't want to go in. Maybe because he could see Kimo lying down looking at him. I guess Hershey's a little gun shy.

So I took him to the Ewa gate. Kimo went into his pouncing posture. But Hershey doesn't play. Finally they both got near the Ewa gate and I took them walking.

I bypassed Koa and took Hershey home before picking up Koa. I put on the rainbow leash again, but Kimo starts barking at the neighbor Koa and (our) Koa also starts going wild. I make both of them lie down.

Then I take them walking, take Kimo home and go back to feed Koa.

* * *

That afternoon, I took Koa in the back to see Kimo. Kimo play bowed again (or pounce bowed). But it seems Koa doesn't know how to play either.

Hershey, Kimo, Koa, Snoopy, and the rat trap

Thursday.

I went to retrieve Hershey first and brought him to the back. He started sniffing, then he and Kimo started to play a bit (though with Kimo one is sometimes unsure if he's playing). Both walk pretty good. So things were off to a good start.

Next retrieve Koa. He struggled down to the front of the road (meaning he was pulling me to get to where he wanted to go). But then he walked better on the way back, even going by Keith relatively painlessly.

As we came by my house, here came Snoopy. Snoopy and Kimo sniffed each other friendlyly (is that a word?), but Koa growled and I restrained him. After a while, he seemed to settle and I let them sniff. But then Koa growled and lunged and Snoopy was off to the races. I pinned Koa down but the damage had been done. So Koa has issues too.

I put Kimo into the garage whereupon he came across the rat trap in which I had caught a mouse the previous night (and put in the trash bin -- the mouse amazingly squeezed through the wires but was still in the trash bin -- that's another story) and starts sniffing and pawing it. I went in to see if I could separate Kimo from the trap, but he got possessive wild. He had apparently claimed the trap as his. He jumped on me and bit me on the leg (fortunately the wound was minor). I pin him and take away the cage.

But in the meantime, Koa starts barking fiercely at the wild Kimo and they go wild at each other. Mom yells at me to take Koa away, but I correct Koa physically with the leash and Kimo verbally (they were on opposite sides of the fence). [I forget, but I might have pinned them both.] Meanwhile, poor Hershey is witnessing all this and seems a little gunshy.

I put on the rainbow leash on Koa, which seems to control him better, and I take Hershey home (who wants to immediately run up the steps). Then I take Koa home and feed him.

Whew.

Wednesday, August 6, 2008

Kimo, Hershey, and Koa

Since Kimo didn't seem too eager to go out (he was barking earlier but was lying down after I got ready), I decided to check if Hershey was over. And he was. After walking Hershey a bit, I decided to bring Hershey in from the DH side. He seemed a little hesitant as I approached the gate. But Kimo was right at the gate and came out when I opened it up. Soon enough they were chasing each other with Hershey leaping the stone wall several times.

OK, walk two. As we reached Koa's place, Koa was waiting for me in the driveway. OK, try three. Hershey seemed apprehensive at Koa (probably Koa growled at him some time ago?) but warmed up a bit later. As we continued on, I saw Amy going out with Miki and Shammy. Kimo seemed torn at running to Amy and growling at Miki. With three in tow, I decided not to chance it and turned around and went the other way.

It was a struggle at first with all the leashes especially with Koa pulling. Finally they settled down a bit and managed a halfway decent walk for a stretch.

As I reached the top of the street, taking some time to shush Keith, I let them on the loose leash at the grass. But Hershey got loose and went to Malia's place and right up to one of their cats. The cat didn't move and happily Hershey stopped and didn't go after him/her. I managed to grab Hershey's leash from street level and led him back out.

I took Kimo home, then went with Koa solo. He seems to get better after he relieves himself early in the walk and gets a little tired.

I'd call this a semi-success. At least no incidents.

I went to feed Koa, then the screen guys (aka roofer guys) truck went by. Hershey was howling and Kimo was barking. Time to leave. As I walked by Hershey house (he was at the door inside the house), I shushed Hershey with my finger on my lips and he actually shushed. Next was Kimo on the steps and he pretty much stopped after he saw me coming.

A little food fetch and he seemed comfortable with them at Pat's house and was mostly quiet after that (so far).

Chibi

After giving Koa his medicine, I took Kimo out for his afternoon walk. I saw a bunch of people running (it looked like some kind of running event) and they seemed confused as to where to go as some of them started running into our street before being told they were going the wrong way. One person was running a sheltie (or it looked like one because Amy told me later that her neighbor has a sheltie which was the dog that looks like a small collie).

I also saw Amy heading out, so I decided to trail her. Apparently she was still wary of Kimo next to her because she told me I could go in front, but I told her she has to lead and that Kimo wouldn't bite her.

We walked down Hala, then to Kunaway, then to Liliha and spotted Kimo's "brother" across the street. I told her I was going to cross and she went on her way up the street. I went to visit the dog and I guy asked me if Kimo was a Japanese Spitz. It turned out he was the dog's owner and that the dog's name was Chibi and was three years old. He's about the same size as Kimo but his coat is fluffier and whiter than Kimo's. Kimo looks a little scraggly in comparison.

I decided to walk around the blog because I saw some other dogs walking. There was a lady with a small dog (chihuahua) and asked what Kimo's name was. And they sniffed. The dogs that is.

And I followed some black dogs being walked and it turned out they lived at the bottom of the street (Bachelot and Kuakini). I came back up and saw the owner was taking Chibi out for a walk, so I decided to tag along. Chibi pooped like three or four times, so I see that Kimo isn't the only one. He said he used to have another Japanese Spitz that was like 45 pounds and used to poop multiple times too. So maybe it's a trait of Japanese Spitz. He said his first spitz lived to be about 10 but might have poisoned. And it turned out that his vet was Dr. Lau who used to be in Kalihi. I told him that used to be our vet too. And the owners name is Stanley.

I began the trek home and saw Diane out with Max on Liliha near the beginning of the street. I asked her what her daughter's name was (since I had walked with her a day or two ago) and her name is Antonia or Toni for short. Another Toni.

Well, I guess Kimo is good for me meeting people.

Hershey and Kimo update

Kimo didn't seem to want to get up, so I decided to walk Hershey by himself Tuesday morning. He walks pretty well with the choke chain high up.

I was a little unsure, but I decided to bring Kimo to our now-fenced back yard. Hershey was a little wary. And actually Kimo initiated by charging at him but Hershey didn't react too much. But I guess Hershey couldn't help himself and got into a playful mood. And they started to run around and play some. It didn't last too long and I took Hershey home.

Then I went to Koa and gave him a little food and some walking practice. I guess it went so-so (I don't really remember). I just remember walking past Hershey's house and Helen brought out Hershey because he was barking. But I told her I had already walked Hershey earlier. I might have taken him, but I had to go take Christie to Kapolei for her driving test.

Koa at tennis

I was planning to go to tennis solo on Monday. It's getting crowded and bringing Kimo becomese more complicated compared to the days when the court was empty.

I decided to stop by Koa's place on the way and he came running up. Nobody seemed to be home and his bowl was full of food so it seemed to me that whoever left the food (Toni's son?) wasn't planning to be back to feed him soon.

So I let him in the car. When I arrived, Koa started whining. It was like he thought I brought him there to abandon him in the woods or something.

Koa immediately went to Bob much to Joyce's chagrin. But was friendly to all.

I went to play with Joyce against Bob and Cat. This was unusual because usually the team is Joyce and Cat. In the meantime, Bryantt (who is actually scared of dogs) had grabbed Koa and was running with him around the tennis courts. They went quite a while and finally it looked like Koa was getting tired as he wasn't running ahead of Bry so much.

I brought him over to the other bench where the girls on Lori's team was sitting. And he really took to Su Jinn who began showing pictures of her dog on her IPhone.

Anyway, nobody was home when I got back and Koa probably got a good night's sleep.

Koa and mastiffs

Saturday.

After not being to hook up Flo with a truck (Bry had to go RHPS), I figured I'd drive around and look. I drove to check on Koa and decided to see how he was going riding. He went right in.

I passed by Lori's house. There was her van there but nobody was home. Then I went pass David's house. As expected, the garage door was closed so I couldn't tell if he was home (I don't what I was expecting). Then I figured since I was out, I'd drive to Cathy's mom's place.

She was out in the yard and I suppose she was surprised to see me though she really didn't show it. But she said she got rid of the cats by hosing them. I let Koa out anyway in the yard and he walked over to the front and immediately deposited a present.

As I was chatting, Cathy came out saying she thought she heard a dog (which was unusual because I don't remember Koa making any noise).

Then a neighbor walked by with a mastiff and Koa reacted and wanted to go after it. So I guess he has dog issues (in addition to Miki and Mochi).

Then later I decided to walk Koa up the street when I heard some heavy barking behind a fence. It was two mastiffs barking! And I had to drag Koa off because he started barking back. Well, actually first I tried to sit Koa with his back to them but they didn't stop barking. So then I took him away.

Since Kimo was attacked by a mastiff, now I know where to find one if I wanted to undertake the task of trying to desensitize him. But he seems to be OK with dogs behind fences. He goes wild when he sees Miki on the street, but largely ignores her when she's at home behind the fence.

Koa and Mochi, and Betty (the dog)

I was walking Kimo Saturday when I saw Amy out with Miki and Shammy. I turned into a garage and waited until they passed, then came out and walked behind at a distance. No incidents this time.

Then I went back to grab Koa and saw Mochi loose. He went out on the street despite Ann calling him. Ann went to get the leash and walk with us. But Mochi started acting up and then Koa. And Kimo went wild. Ann was ready to take Mochi back but I told her we got to force them to walk. And to follow behind us. That seemed to work as far as it went.

We went back to Koa's place and Kimo went over and drank Koa's water. But then he didn't want to leave his spot near the water when I went over to grab his leash. And he went stubborn wild. To compound the problem, Koa started to howl. But eventually everything calmed down.

I took Kimo home then saw a couple walking a small white and brown dog. So since I was on a roll, I decided to take Kimo and walk with them. After a while, it came back to me that I met them before. The oriental guy is John. The big haole lady is Diane. And the small dog is Betty. After I heard the dog's name, that's when I recalled that I met them before. And they remembered the last time I walked with them I told them Kimo had just bit me.

We walked pretty well, but when we walked past Koa's place he howled at us. So he does seem to have some dog issues.

Saturday, August 2, 2008

Hershey is back

After what seemed to be a couple of weeks, I heard howling next door. Hershey was back. I went over and he seemed extremely happy (or excited) to see me.

I brought Kimo over to see his reaction. After Kimo got attacked by Miki, he became very quiet for days. Then when he saw Miki again, he went wild.

Hershey's reaction was very mild in comparison. As I wrote earlier, the next day he saw Kimo he went turned and went back into the house. But the day after, I walked with them almost as if nothing happened.

This time, Hershey didn't seem to do his play bow to try to entice Kimo to play with him. But he didn't run away either and in fact came to me. Then when I took them walking, Hershey walked quite well.

As I reached the end of the street, I saw Reina coming with Miki and Shammy. I waited until they came a little closer to see how Kimo would react. When I though they were getting close enough. I took them both into the garage out of sight. Then I waited until Reina turned around and took the dogs out. Not much reaction from any of the dogs. Though Kimo wanted to sniff on the side and Reina went home after just one lap. Maybe I should call her not to run away (otherwise the problem will never be solved).

I took them both over to Koa and Hershey seemed a bit apprehensive, then I tried to walk them altogether. It was quite a chore as Koa was pulling. But Kimo behaved. Even when he was walking behind Koa and Koa's wagging tail was smacking him in the face!

I decided to take them to the back of Koa's house. After I got them in, they mostly went their separate ways with Koa mostly staying by me and the other two wandering off. All was peaceful until Kimo heard another dog barking. I think it might have been Miki but maybe it was one of the neighbor dogs (the one who moved in after Oliver left). And once Kimo started barking at the barking, Koa started to howl.

I managed to quiet them down after a while. But Kimo obviously still has a reaction problem to many things.

I looked at the new Dog Whisperer episode today about a dog who reacted aggressively toward men. The solution is to desensitise him to a lot of different men. Kimo was going wild at the workers today, so maybe I'll try to desensitise him to them.