Tuesday, July 29, 2008

lie down

Undaunted I took Kimo back to Koa's place. Actually Kimo was lying down on the grass when I was ready to go, so I left him at home and walked Koa first. I saw Reina out with Miki and Shammy. Koa was starting to react a bit, but I persisted and brought him closer. Then as they were coming back, Miki started barking at Koa and I held him. Then Reina made tracks for home. (Unfortunately, they'll never learn to co-exist if they are kept apart.)

Later I came back with Koa to get Kimo. Kimo reacted a bit when I brought Koa but then I got them to walk together (on opposite sides of me).

Anyway, it was fairly peaceful at first when I got there. I pulled up a chair and watched Kimo sniffed around. Meanwhile Koa came and stayed next to me to be petted.

A while later, Kimo started barking at neighbor Koa at the top of the steps through the fence where they can see each other. I went up and Koa started howling. They both got excited which can be a scary situation. Plus big Koa was barking too. So I made Kimo lie down. Then I made Koa lie down too. Koa growled a bit but I corrected that. But big Koa kept barking even though the little boy next door kept calling him to come. I kind of slid Koa away so he wasn't facing the other Koa, but big Koa kept barking. Then I figured maybe he was barking at me because I sometimes give him treats and he wanted some. So I turned my back to him. And eventually he stopped.

I blocked a couple more places and left Koa in the back while I took Kimo home. But I broke a vase (sshh, don't tell anyone) that was in the dirt on the side (I was first going to see if I could use that to block the opening). So I went home to get the glue and sure enough Koa was still in the back. I brought him up front and he seems to like the front so he can lie down on his pillow. In the meantime, the vase kept falling apart on me. So I took it home. Another thing to fix.

Monday, July 28, 2008

still out of control

Today was the day Toni was supposed to have left for the neighbor island.

I took Kimo on his walk and as I was coming back I was surprised to see Koa loose. The metal clasp had come off of the rope. I took Kimo home and went to get the screwdrive I use for weeding. I tried to get the clasp off the other rope, but it looks like the rope was burnt to weld it shut. Actually it's pretty much off the the burnt part expanded making it hard to take out of the metal loop. So I just tied the other rope.

I went to walk and feed Koa in the afternoon. Since apparently nobody was home, I took Koa in the back to feed him and looked around to see if I could block any obvious openings. I used a couple of pieces of lumber and slid it under the metal gate that I've seen Koa slide under to get back home. I also took the sheet of wood on the side of the steps and tried to block the path under the stairwell. On the other side of the stairwell (on the side facing the street), there looked like there were a couple of openings. So I tried to block them with a 2x4(?) and a piece of raingutter I found nearby. But there still looks like there's some space to squeeze.

While there, I took off Koa's leash, then it took me a while to find it. I could also hear Kimo barking. So I left and it turned out that Pat had taken Keith out. So that wasn't much of a surprise. I went home and tugged Kimo up the street (after cleaning up his pee and poop in the garage).

Koa was by the gate when we came up and I let Kimo in. The dogs more or less kept their distance as Kimo went sniffing around. It was OK for a while, but then Koa started howling on the landing on top of the stairway. He was howling at the neighbor Koa. There's an opening where they can see each other. Then Kimo comes over and starts barking/growling. And that made it worse when they were both acting up. The neighbors yelled at their Koa to get away from there. And finally the dogs settled down.

Then Kimo wandered near the back fence overlooking the park and he saw something he didn't like and started barking/growling. That set Koa to howling. And I had to carefully stay between them in case an attack broke out. After a number of heys, they calmed down and I tied Koa in the front and took Kimo home in the back.

Kimo was lying down, but then heard a truck or something. I pulled him back away but he didn't calm down. In fact he got worse when the truck was leaving (it sounded like it since I couldn't see it). I was trying to snap him out of it but the leash was under his body. He got so wild and jumped up on me. I kneeled down in front of him and he nipped my arm. Luckily I was wearing my sweatshirt so it was a surface scratch. After a few firm tugs on the leash, he finally came back to his senses and I made him lie down. He seemed OK after that. But he seems to get into these states where he's out of control.

So it's still a fine line I'm walking. The safer way to handle it is to wait until he calms. But I'm always tempted to try to snap him out of it even when he's in the red zone.

Saturday, July 26, 2008

stubborn wild

I don't what else to call it.

Kimo was barking in the garage in the early a.m. (like 2 or 3 a.m. I guess). So I let him to out to pee and/or poop. He peed some and then when I left him back in, he ran up the steps to the landing. That wouldn't do, so I brought him back down and he lay down in the middle of the garage. That wouldn't do either, but the leash was on under him so it would be kind of hard to pull him. So I maneuvered it and kind of tugged to get him up.

He jumped on me with a wild look in his eye. I'd say that was a dominant act. So I tried again and he jumped on me again. It was like he didn't even recognize me. He seemed to be getting into the red zone, so I grabbed the leash, then grabbed him neck and pinned him to the ground. It took a number of seconds until he finally relaxed and had some semblance of recognition. And he sort of rolled to expose his belly.

I'm not exactly sure how to handle this. It's very similar to the cases when he doesn't want to move from a certain area (like when he doesn't want to exit the car) and he goes wild when you try to move him. So I guess I have to be able to claim the spot that he's on. Maybe practice going the down and up at that problem spot. I think he's better at getting in and out of the car. So perhaps I have to do the same thing on the landing and in the garage.

Monday, July 21, 2008

still out of control

I still don't have Kimo totally in control (needless to say).

This morning I let him out of the garage to poop and Katherine happened to be taking a walk (which she does only occasionally). Kimo saw her, ran out to the road next to her (I tried to step on his leash, but missed) and started barking. I had to go out and grab the leash and calm him down.

Well, since he was out, I figured it was time to walk. So I walked with Mr. Yokomoto who was also walking at the time. Then with Betty. Then finally slowed down to walk with mom, Harriet, and Amy. He walked fairly well after that, though he acted up a bit with the birds on the telephone line above the Fongs house and a bit with Keith when he started to bark at us from the window.

Sunday, July 20, 2008

Petey on the ledge

Petey was out on the ledge today as I took Koa for his afternoon walk before feeding. I tried to wait until Petey paused barking before walking away, but he never really stopped very long and it took me a while to get going back.

Then it was Kimo's turn. I bypassed Koa at first when were going up because he was sleeping on his pillow. It looked like his legs were in the air. But he was up on the way back and I grabbed him. Also Nalu's mom? and son were out and they decided to follow us.

They were walking pretty well. The first obstacle was Keith. I switch Kimo to the makai side and we made it slowly up the hill. But then Petey was out again. Kimo got wild at Petey barking and that set off Koa who got wild at Kimo getting wild at Petey. I had to settle them down and once again it took a while to get back the hill as I tried to walk when Petey paused (but when I started walking, he started barking again, so I paused again, etc.) Plus the Cheungs were home with Mr. Cheung working the weedeater outside. So they have more to complain about.

I took Koa home and decided to bring Kimo up the street solo. Disapointingly he went wild again and I had to grab him by the collar. After that he was mostly calm though Petey continued to bark and it was slow going once again going back home.

Well, I got Keith to curtail his barking by waiting until he stopped barking, but I don't know if that works with other dogs in general. Well, I figure they have to eventually get tired of barking. Eventually.

I did a quick search on the net and here's one person's account on getting a neighbor's dog to stop barking.

Saturday, July 19, 2008

Hope for Keith and Kimo

As usual, Keith and Kimo were at each other as Pat took Keith out with Kimo on the steps and Keith and Pat on the street.

Hot on today's success with Miki, I determinedly took Kimo up the street after them. Kimo went wild near the Hatanaka house as Pat was returning with Keith. And Keith went wild too.

Finally they settled a little and Pat took Keith down the road. Evidently Pat had had enough as she went to check her mail. She was taking a little long looking through her mail, so I sensed opportunity. I took Kimo back to the garage and grabbed the rainbow leash. Then I asked Pat if I could walk Keith.

I put on the leash and Keith walked surprisingly well. As I came down the street, I wondered what Kimo was going to do. He went to the top of the steps and lay down. A surprisingly good sign. Vern was coming down as I went up with Keith so I walked with Vern. He seemed a little apprehensive with Keith sniffing him. But other than that, no problems. Keith had one small flareup as I came back down after Vern went home. But I just gave him a mild correction and returned him to Pat.

I'd give that a thumbs up.

A little later I took Kimo out to make sure he relieved himself enough. Then Snoopy made an appearance. I let Kimo loose and they sniffed each other by the stone wall. And Snoopy went on his merry way. Another good sign.

Wynn with Miki

Today, Kimo was barking. It turned out to be Betty and her daughter walking down the street. Usually he doesn't bark at Betty, so it must have been her daughter. When they came within view, he started wagging his tail. I assume that was at Betty.

Actually he had another tail-wagging incident this morning when Alvin came in his truck to borrow my lawn mower. Alvin parked on the side of the road and usually Kimo barks like crazy when a truck comes by, but he was quiet so that means he recognized the truck. Then his tail went crazy when Alvin came walking up.

Acutally earlier, there was a barking incident. Barking at the newspaper guy.

Anyway, back to Betty. Since they were walking, I figured it was time to walk Kimo. He went over to get petted by Betty. Then he went over to her daughter. I've always kept Kimo away, but this time I let him go over. She let him smell his hand then went to pet him. He had this unsure look in his eyes, so she retracted her hand. Probably a smart move. Then we proceeded on the walk which must mostly OK until..

We saw Wynn out with Miki and Shammy. When Kimo saw them, he went wild (red-eye, flashing teeth wild). But I held him tightly by the collar until the rage subsided. And Wynn brought the dogs closer. Miki acted up a bit but Wynn corrected her. Then finally Kimo settled down and we walked together. Almost like the old days. This was good to confront the problem today because I see that it's possible to get them to walk together again. Reina usually takes the dogs away now when she sees Kimo acting up. I can't blame her though, since that's a normal reaction.

Then on the way, we stopped over by Koa. He was on his bed in the corner and I kept Kimo away in case Koa would get territorial. I sat down and Koa came over but was a little territorial/protective and kind of growled or barked mildly. But then I leashed up Koa we went walking together reasonably well, though I'm keeping them on opposite sides for now. Kimo (the man) and daughter drove by and must have been surprised to see me out with Koa. He said he didn't think Koa was walkable. Right on he said as I explained the situation.

walking Koa

I talked with Toni a couple of days ago and now we have it straightened out. She was under the impression that I was going to feed Koa every day. But I wasn't sure because the first day Eddie left I saw somebody had left food out for him. Plus he wasn't always outside when I came over to check on him in the evening. So we decided that I would feed him during the day when he's outside.

I've walked Koa a few times before when I caught him loose on the street. But not very consistently. When I tried walking him a couple of days ago, he was pulling most of the way and I stopped numerous times to resettle him.

But when I tried yesterday, he walked much easier and didn't fight me so much. He seems to be learning fast, but we'll see the next time.

He doesn't really know how to sit though. He sits for his food. But doesn't seem to know how when there's no food around.

Ivomec

Kimo is taking Ivomec (a brand name for ivermectin) for his mange. I was wondering if I could get it cheaper somewhere else besides from the vet. Evidently you can, but it's not recommended.

[1/27/09] I noticed in Coco The Blogging Dog that the Walgreens Prescription Savings Club includes pets. I looked and unfortunately didn't see ivermectin on the list.

[4/1/10] ProMeris is mentioned as an alternative treatment to ivermectin for mange.

[12/9/10] Dr. Fox on mange: Sarcoptic mange is treatable with dips and a drug called Ivermectin. The veterinarian can take skin scrapings to check for mange parasites that burrow into the dog’s skin. The other type of mange called Demodex is more difficult to treat, causes hair loss and thickening of the skin, and is aggravated by stress in young, growing animals who become infested from their mothers while nursing and may show no symptoms until stressed later in life.

I found this interesting because Kimo's vet said his condition could be triggered by stress which is Demodex. But he's being treated by Ivomec which is for sarcoptic.

However another site says ivermectin produces excellent results with red mange (demodicoses) though it's actually not approved for treating mange.

This site confirms that ivermectin is the treatment of choice for demodectic mange. Makes me wonder about Dr. Fox..

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[6/22/11] I wonder if I can save money and by the ivomec commercially? Well, here's what the marvistavet site (linked above) says:

WHILE WE RECOGNIZE THAT IT IS POSSIBLE TO BUY LARGE ANIMAL FORMULATIONS OF IVERMECTIN (SUCH AS IVOMEC®) THROUGH CATALOGS, WE STRONGLY DISCOURAGE THIS PRACTICE BECAUSE OF THE POTENTIAL TO EASILY GIVE A TOXIC DOSE IF THE PRODUCT IS INCORRECTLY USED.

LARGE ANIMAL FORMULATIONS ARE MUCH MORE CONCENTRATED AND IT IS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO MEASURE A DOSE APPROPRIATELY FOR A SMALL ANIMAL ESPECIALLY IF ONE IS ATTEMPTING TO MEASURE A DOSE APPROPRIATE FOR HEARTWORM PREVENTION.

THERE IS TREMENDOUS POTENTIAL FOR SERIOUS SIDE EFFECTS IF IVERMECTIN IS INAPPROPRIATELY DOSED.

Thursday, July 17, 2008

Kimo at tennis

I don't know if should bring Kimo to tennis any more. It's getting kind of crowded with Lori's team there and I can't run around with him on the court.

I tried out the muzzle on him at the court and it went on readily enough. But it looks a little big as the strap has a lot loose at the end. Plus Kimo doesn't like it and paws it off.

He misbehaved a couple of times. He went to Bob and Bob started petting him under the chin. Then he got nervous and Kimo growled and snapped at hime.

Later I had him tied up and a lady came near to him and he barked at her.

So this past Monday, I left him at home and it still was pretty crowded.

A Giant Step Back

I keep thinking Kimo's making progress, then he takes a giant leap backward.

I took him over to Hershey on Monday and let him loose while I went to retrieve Hershey's leash. Then, before I knew, I heard this commotion and Kimo had pinned Herhsey against the car.

I grabbed Kimo and downed him eventually (it took some doing) and held him until he settled. But he wasn't completely settled as he lay down as he protested when I gently tugged the leash to get him up.

What was worse was that Helen was watching as all this was going on.

Usually, Hershey initiates play by charging and running away. Then lies down, at which point Kimo stops and sniffs him. This time Kimo didn't stop. Actually, I'm not sure what happened because I wasn't looking. It might have been Hershey just ran into the car while running away and Kimo kept going.

The next day, I walked Kimo to the garage with Hershey in the house and Hershey started barking. Helen let Hershey out, then he saw Kimo and did an about-face back into the house. Can't say I blame him.

On Wednesday, Gerald came with Hershey as I was at the beginning of the street. He heard about the incident, but let out Hershey anyway. I grabbed the leash and we commenced walking almost as if nothing had happened. I'm sure Hershey was apprensive but he didn't struggle. But I'm keeping an eye on Kimo for a while, just in case.

Watching Koa

Well Eddie drove by on Sunday with a case of Vienna sausage and Koa's pills. He's off to Thailand and I guess didn't look for anybody else to look after Koa.

Unlike his reputation as seen by the Miyamotos, Koa is getting pretty affectionate. To me anyway. He seems happy to see me and snuggles up to me when I sit down on the stone wall. Maybe he's starving for affection.

Quite a change when he used to run away from me and growl when I brought Kimo around. I'm still not so sure about him and Kimo. But so far no real problem lately, though Kimo keeps his distance from him.

Sunday, July 6, 2008

What's On My DVR

Here's what's on my DVR. I actually already transferred most of these to DVD, but they are kind of scattered. So I'll sort of gather them here before deleting them from the DVR.

Good Dog U - Advice for quieting a barking dog (7/28/07)
This is a Silverman episode and the dog is a miniature Alaskan Eskimo named Scud. This is applicable because Scud looks like kimo and barks.

Good Dog U - Barking Dogs and Hyper Dogs
This is Jay Stutz' episode on barking dogs

Good Dog U - Fundamentals of Dog Training

Good Dog U - Defining Training for the leader of the pack

Dog Whisperer 66 - Raw Cotton
Cotton is a Alaskan Eskimo dog who bites the neighbors

Dog Whisperer 83 - Anti-Social Sasha
Sasha attacks other dogs at the dog park

Sasha is a german shepherd/corgi mix which means she looks like a German Shepherd with short legs. The owner Lisa sounds like she's from Hawaii (which could well be the case as she went on her honeymoon in Hawaii when Sasha was at the Center). One thing I noticed was how Cesar gave his jab early when Sasha looked tense as a preventive measure to snap her out of her mood. Early intervention.

Dog Whisperer 76 - Gizmo
a 6-year-old beagle with a severe aggression problem
Gizmo is fine 90% of the time, but 10% of the time he gets this look in his eye and goes wild. When Caesar first interviews the owner, he asks her if she considers herself a passive person. Because that kind of energy can draw the dog into certain behavior. I consider myself a passive person, so I have to watch that. Gizmo has problems being picked up, but Caesar was able to do it after taking a deep breath. When she does it, she seems to pick him up clumsily and Gizmo thrashes a bit. Another problem is food possessiveness. Kimo doesn't have that problem with his regular food. But if he finds food or prey, he becomes possessive and can go wild if you try to take it away (or him away). The solution of course is to claim his possession.

Dog Whisperer 39 - Eppie
Eppie is dog agressive leading to extraordinary measures when taking walks (so that's worse than Kimo who goes wild only with certain dogs)

Dog Whisperer 85 - Buddy Red Alert / Rescue Rufus
Buddy is fearful and human-aggressive / Rufus is aggressive toward strangers

Cesar demonstrates techniques on how he handles an aggressive dog (Buddy). Rufus seemed more insecure and Cesar gave more demonstrations of guiding the dog through his insecurity. In both cases, Daddy assisted. It would be nice to get Daddy to come and walk with Kimo. "Excitement leads to friendship not leadership."

Dog Whisperer 86 - Chipper
Chipper escapes and attacks other dogs

Cesar was able to get Chipper to walk on a treadmill and walk with other dogs, but still went after dogs in his own territory. This shows it isn't always as easy as Cesar makes it appear when he rehabilitates dogs. For one things, one of the dogs he used in this episode (besides Daddy) was Curly which was featured on an earlier episode (which means Cesar wasn't able to transform the dog enough so that the owner could handle him). The other thing is that Cesar said he needed the pack to rehab Cesar. So while Chipper was able to be rehabbed, it required a "wave of dogs" to do it. Or at least facilitate it. [8/24/08]

Quotes: Cesar knows that red zone cases don't just happen. They are an accumulation of missed opportunities to correct bad behavior.

Tools are here to help you to block or redirect unwanted behavior. Leash, backpack, muzzles, bike; the most important tool is your energy

Cesar took Chipper for walk. but upon arriving back home, still didn't want to give it up in her territory, needs his pack. "And this is why I love my pack. My pack definitely make things happen way quicker than me."

Chipper encounters a wave of dogs when arriving at the center.

So what's your recommendation for me to do from here on out?
to reintroduce her into our home
and not regress back to the old behavior?
What would you recommend yourself?
Well, I know I need to continue with the exercise regimen you've given me with the treadmill and the walk
I need to watch her energy and keep her calm submissive
so it doesn't get to that point that I have to break up the fight
yes yes that's it! Simple as that!
[hand slap]

Dog Whisperer 88 - Mateo
Mateo doesn't take to the leash well and doesn't respect his owners

Dog Whisperer 89 - Jake in Exile
Jake has become so aggressive that he has to be secluded in the basement

It's Me or The Dog 29 - Jed
Jed might be most scarily aggressive dog I've seen

Breed All About It - pomeranian
reminds me of Oliver

[7/6/09] Looking over my Dog Whisperer CDs on the Apex Player.. Argy might be the most aggressive dog shown on the series. He was so tightly wound that if you approached the wrong way, you would be liable for a bite. And since he was powerful dog the bite could become serious. In fact, even Cesar got bitten as he showed the wound on his hand.

[7/12/09] Titan (episode 60) is kind of like Kimo in that he behaves unpredictably. He would come up to you to be petted then all of a sudden explode. But he's worse because he's a rotweiller. But maybe not unpredictable to Cesar since he corrected when he focused too strongly on one his dogs. This was a case where he took him to the Center.

[7/12/09] Shadow is a dog that goes out of control on walks when he sees certain other dogs. That happened even when Cesar was walking him. So he couldn't blame the owner's energy on that occasion. He called him White Wolf and White Fang. So that's kind of like Kimo. (Though Kimo is more like a baby white wolf with his size.) Cesar needed to ride the wave until it calmed down.

Two out of Three

Kimo got to interact with three dogs on his Saturday afternoon/evening walk. As I was returning from the beginning of the street, Diana came home and hailed me to stop so she could bring out Max and Kapena. Kimo was sniffing around Diana's bushes and Kapena went up to him and sniffed. Kimo backed off a little but didn't run away and let him sniff.

After that, we encountered Koa who was tied up for one of his rare occasions in the front. I let Kimo loose and he sniffed around but didn't go up to Koa. Koa eventually came to me and went over to sniff Kimo. Kimo didn't really run away but didn't sniff back. Koa then acted up a bit and I had to block him a bit. But overall this encounter seemed hopeful. There may be more interaction in the future as Eddie told me the other day that he was going to some foreign country (Thailand) to work for like six weeks and wanted to check if I could look after Koa while he was gone.

Then we went to the end of the street and encountered another rare appearance. Petey must have gotten loose in the back and was up on the balcony. Kimo reacted back to Petey's barking and I had to calm him several times. But we ended on a good note as we finally were able to walk calmly and slowly back home without Petey barking.

Friday, July 4, 2008

Koa redux

Koa was out again and we trailed him up the street toward the Chung's house. Then Koa went back down and Pat took Keith out. Keith barked and Kimo went nuts. Wild like Nunu. (He went wild like that Except Kimo was bigger. Somehow I managed not to get bitten. I tried to calm him down by making him lie down on Amy's grass. But he was still excited as I slowly walked him down the street with Pat and Keith looking on.

Then I encountered Ann taking out Mochi and Fifi. Kimo seemed to be behaving with the dogs loose. But Fifi came close and Kimo started to growl. So Ann kept them at a distance. But not Paco who came up and head-butted Kimo in the chest in his usual manner.

I met back up with Koa near his house and let Kimo sniff around his place. Koa came closer to investigate but not in smelling distance. I sat down on the stone wall in the driveway and Koa eventually came over and got petted.

Later Toni came out and tied Koa to the rope. He became more territorial, but Kimo just lay on the ground as I chatted with Toni.

So it appears Kimo and Koa are getting used to each other. Though I'm still concerned about his bouts of wildness.

Kapena

Found out the name of the dog staying with Diana, but soon to be shipped out. It's Kapena. He's a chihuahua/terrier. I was walking Kimo when Diana came home and she told me to wait and brought out Max and Kapena. Kapena wanted to charge at Kimo but maybe he wanted to play. But to be safe, Diana kept Kapena at a distance as we walked.

Tuesday, July 1, 2008

neighborhood cats

I talked a little Thursday with Diana's neighbor, the one who's been calling me Kimo all this time. I finally got to know the names of Diana's cats. The fat one (who I've been calling Orson lately) is actually named Sam. The tailless one is Kai. There's another one who's sometimes up near the garage, but I forgot the name she told me. I think it started with an A. And the lady has two cats indoors called Jack and Jill. And she said her name was Jill or something.

Diana told me that friendly and well-behaved dog she had been dogsitting is going to be shipped away. And that she's going to give up Kai. Max and Sam are enough to keep her busy.

Now to find out the name of that black cat with the white feet that comes to visit Kimo every once in a while. I should ask Chris since last time I saw him he was looking to take him/her to the vet.